- TONIGHT ON 'LOVE AND RESPECT', A CONVERSATION WITH FOOTBALL GREAT AND GEORGIA UNITED STATES' SENATE CANDIDATE HERSCHEL WALKER.

- WHY DON'T WE COME UP WITH TWO CRITERIA TO RUN FOR OFFICE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

YOU FIRST GOTTA LOVE AMERICA.

- YEAH.

- IF YOU DON'T LOVE AMERICA, WHY DO YOU RUN?

- YEAH.

- THEN YOU GOTTA LOVE THE CONSTITUTION.

- YEAH.

- BECAUSE WITHIN THE CONSTITUTION, THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEMS WE'RE FIGHTING FOR RIGHT NOW.

- HERSCHEL WALKER COMING UP RIGHT NOW.

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♪♪ - WELCOME TO 'LOVE AND RESPECT'.

- THANK YOU, SIR.

- ALL RIGHT, THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SHOWS.

SO THE BRAVES HAVE WON THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP.

- YES.

- GEORGIA, NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.

- YES.

- AND I GET TO INTERVIEW HERSCHEL WALKER.

- OH WOW.

- THIS IS ABSOLUTELY- - TRIFECTA.

- YEAH, THIS IS WHEN YOU KNOW PRAYERS COME TRUE.

- SO I APPRECIATE YOU.

WE'VE TALKED, LIKE YOU CALLED ME.

I USUALLY, WHEN I'M TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, THEY'RE HARD.

THEY'RE EVASIVE.

IT'S LIKE TRYING TO FIND BATMAN IN GOTHAM CITY.

NOW YOU CALLED ME.

- YES, YES.

- AND WAS LIKE, "MICHAEL, HOW YOU DOING?

I'D LOVE TO MEET YOU."

EVERYBODY ON YOUR SIDE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY PLEAD YOU AS CALLING A BUREAUCRAT.

(KILLER MIKE CHUCKLES) - RIGHT, RIGHT, YOU KNOW.

- BUT YOU DIDN'T MIND AND YOU OFFERED YOURSELF.

SO THANK YOU.

- NO, THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, I'VE WATCHED YOU FROM AFAR AND I ADMIRE WHAT YOU WERE DOING FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTA AND IT'S NOT HAD THAT I WAS RUNNING FOR AN OFFICE.

IT'S JUST I ADMIRE WHAT YOU WERE DOING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO DO.

- YES, SIR.

- YOU GOTTA GIVE BACK, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HELPED SO MUCH AND I GOTTA REAP WHERE I CAN HELP PEOPLE AS WELL.

THE SAME THING THAT YOU WERE DOING.

- YEAH, SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE SOUTHERN.

- OH YES.

- SPEAKING OF SOUTHERN, YOU'RE FROM JOHNSON COUNTY.

- YES.

- UM, STATE CHAMPIONS WITH THE TROJANS THERE, NAMED NATIONAL HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE OF THE YEAR.

WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP IN '80, IN 1982, YOU WIN THE HEISMAN TROPHY.

YOU MADE A LOT OF PEOPLE A LOT OF MONEY ALONG THE WAY.

- I HAVE.

- RIGHT.

- SO WHEN HIGH SCHOOLS WIN STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, PEOPLE WENT TO THAT HIGH SCHOOL TO MAKE SURE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL HAS A BETTER GYM.

THEY DONATE.

(HERSCHEL WALKER CHUCKLES) - OH WELL, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN TOO MUCH WHERE I GREW UP.

- IT HAS HAPPENED MORE NOW.

- IT HAS, I'VE HAD TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY BACK THEN AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU WIN CHAMPIONSHIP AND GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUTSIDE AND DO SOMETHING LIKE I'VE DONE.

YOU GOTTA GIVE BACK.

SO I TRY TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT BACK TO MY HIGH SCHOOL.

- SO YOU'VE MADE SURE THAT HIGH SCHOOL HAS A CLAIM.

YOU'VE GIVEN THEM MONEY OUTTA YOUR POCKET.

YOU WON IN 1980, YOU KNOW, UNDER COACH VINCE DOOLEY, YOU GUYS HAD A HECK OF AN ERA TOGETHER.

NOW, FAST FORWARD, MY WIFE'S COUSIN, NOLAN SMITH JR. IS NUMBER FOUR ON DEFENSE PLAYS.

AND THERE'S A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN YOUR TEAM WINNING AND THEIR TEAM WINNING.

AND THAT AS YOUNG MEN, THEY'RE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY.

- YES.

- THEY'RE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE JERSEYS.

I HAD TO GET ONE OF YOUR JERSEYS ILLEGALLY MADE.

- OH JEEZ, DON'T TELL ME THAT.

- HEY, THEY WOULDN'T EVEN LET ME HAVE A JERSEY.

- EXACTLY, I HAD TO BOOTLEG IT.

- I CAN'T EVEN GET ONE.

- WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT AND DO YOU APPROVE OF ATHLETES NOW IN THE FREE MARKET BEING ABLE TO USE THEIR NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS BECAUSE ATHLETES DIDN'T USED TO GET PAID FOR THE COLLEGE VIDEO GAMES.

THEY DIDN'T USED TO GET PAID FOR THE JERSEY.

AND I KNOW YOUR JERSEYS, YOUR JERSEYS SOLD OUT EVERY WEEK IN UGA FOR YEARS AT LEAST.

- YES.

- WHAT DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THESE BOYS AND YOU KNOW, AND GIRLS BEING ABLE TO BE PAID?

- WELL, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT FOR IT.

THE ONLY REASON I'M NOT FOR IT IS, I THINK IT'S GONNA SEPARATE PLAYERS.

- REALLY?

- I THINK IT'S GONNA SEPARATE PLAYERS, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA HURT SOME OF THE SMALL SCHOOLS.

AND I SAY, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HURT SOME OF THE SMALLER SCHOOLS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I SUGGESTED, BUT THEY WOULDN'T EVEN TAKE MY SUGGESTION.

I SAID, "GUYS, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS?"

I SAID, "COLLEGE IS ABOUT EDUCATION."

I SAID, "WHY DON'T WE TAKE THE MONEY THAT THE ATHLETES ARE GONNA MAKE, PUT IT IN AN ENDOWMENT PROGRAM.

AND WHAT WE DO THE INTEREST FROM IT IS TO HELP UNDERPRIVILEGED PEOPLE TO GO TO COLLEGE.

AND ONCE YOU COME BACK TO THAT SCHOOL WITH A DEGREE, I DON'T CARE WHAT, FROM ANY UNIVERSITY, YOU RECEIVE EVERY CENT YOU EVER MADE.

BECAUSE I WANT THE EMPHASIS TO BE ON EDUCATION, BECAUSE I THINK STUDIES HAVE BEEN SHOWN THAT YOU TAKE PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES THAT HAVE MADE A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE MONEY.

SOME OF 'EM HAVE LOST SOME MONEY."

AND I SAY, IF WE GONNA HELP TO EDUCATE OUR YOUNG MEN ON HOW TO SPEND THE MONEY, HOW TO KEEP THE MONEY, HOW TO INVEST THE MONEY ON TAXES, THEN I CAN BE FOR IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, JUST TO SAY, LET'S GET ATHLETES MONEY, I SAY, "GUYS, I THINK WE NEED TO HELP THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST THAT."

- GOTCHA.

- AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO.

I WANNA HELP THEM NOT JUST GIVE THEM MONEY.

BUT HELP THEM HOW TO INVEST THAT MONEY, HELPING THEM HOW TO KEEP THE MONEY BECAUSE JUST GIVING THEM MONEY, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HELP 'EM.

- SO LET ME CHALLENGE, LET ME TRY TO DO WHAT DEFENDERS USED TO DO AND GIVE YOU SOME PUSHBACK, RIGHT?

WE ARE THE CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY.

THE SIDE THAT YOU'RE RUNNING FROM IS RUNNING FOR IS PRO-CAPITALISM.

- YES.

- AT 19 YEARS OLD, I DON'T CARE ABOUT A DEGREE.

I CARE ABOUT MAKING, I'M JUST SAYING...

I CARE ABOUT MAKING AS MUCH AS I CAN BECAUSE I'M NOT GUARANTEED MY ACHILLES IS GONNA HOLD UP.

- YES.

- MY MCL, MY ACL.

WHY DENY ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MONEY AT 19 AND SAY, "WELL, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA PUT YOU WITH A GOLDMAN SACHS AGENT."

- YES.

- SO NOT ONLY ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY, WE'RE GONNA PUT YOU WITH GOLDMAN SACHS AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

SAY IF IT'S AN ENDOWMENT, BUT THE INTEREST THAT'S COMPOUNDING SHOULD BE FOR YOU.

AND YOU GET IT AT 25 WITH SOME STIPEND THAT MAKES SURE YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, INVOLVE YOURSELF IN SCAM AND STUFF.

WHY NOT DO IT THAT WAY VERSUS SAYING DON'T PAY BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW MUCH UNIVERSITIES ARE MAKING OFF ATHLETES.

- OH, NO.

THE UNIVERSITY MAKES A LOT OUT OF ATHLETES.

BUT THE PROBLEM I GOT WITH IT IS YOU HAVE SOME KIDS GOING TO COLLEGE, THAT'S WORKING THREE JOBS TO GET AN EDUCATION.

RIGHT NOW THE ATHLETES ARE PAID.

WHAT IS, A SCHOLARSHIP TODAY IS GONNA BE ALMOST $250,000.

NOT EVERY ATHLETE IS GONNA GET THAT.

I THINK EDUCATION IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST KEYS.

AND I SAID THIS, AS LONG AS YOU HELP THE ATHLETE THROUGH TEACHING THEM FINANCE, TEACHING THEM WHAT TO DO WITH THE MONEY.

TEACHING THEM HOW TO KEEP THE MONEY.

I SAY, I CAN WORK WITH THAT.

BUT I THINK JUST AS YOU SAID, WE'RE GONNA GIVE 'EM MONEY.

BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS.

A LOT OF SMALL SCHOOLS ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PAY THOSE ATHLETES THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

- YOU'VE SEEN THAT BEFORE WITH BLACK SCHOOLS.

- THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

- WREN WAS ONE OF THE MOST DOMINANT FOOTBALL SCHOOLS.

- AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN THEY STARTED TAKING THE BLACK ATHLETES OUT OF THOSE HISTORICAL BLACK COLLEGES, THAT'S WHEN THEY STARTED GOING DOWN.

BECAUSE ALL THE ATHLETES WERE LEAVING, GOING TO THE BIGGER SCHOOLS.

AND I SAID, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE SEC, THEY'RE GONNA START PAYING ALL THE ATHLETES.

SO NOW THE GUYS COME IN HERE, SO WHAT ABOUT THE SMALLER SCHOOL?

ARE THEY GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THE MONEY?

AND I SAID, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA REGULATE THAT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE GONNA REGULATE THAT.

AND THEN I SAID, "WHAT TYPE OF SEPARATION THEY'RE GONNA HAVE?"

ARE THEY GONNA HAVE YOUNG MEN THAT'S GONNA BE DRIVING A MERCEDES AROUND CAMPUS.

AND THEN HIS OFFENSIVE LINE WILL BE DRIVING A BICYCLE.

- YEAH.

- AND I TELL PEOPLE THIS, I SAY, "GUYS, I WON THE HEISMAN TROPHY, BUT LET'S BE HONEST HERE."

IF YOU LOOK AT WHEN I PLAYED AND MY OFFENSIVE LINE WAS VERY GOOD.

YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GET HIT IN THE BACK FIELD THAT MUCH AT ALL.

NONE OF MY OFFENSIVE LINE EVER MADE ALL AMERICA.

- YEAH.

- PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT.

GUYS, HERSCHEL WALKER, THEY SAID, "WELL, THERE'S A GREAT RUNNING BACK."

I DID ALL THESE GREAT THINGS, BUT I DIDN'T DO IT ALONE.

I HAD A GREAT TEAM AROUND ME, BUT YET EVERYONE ONLY GAVE ME THOSE AWARD.

WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WAS IN FRONT OF ME DOING SOME OF THE WORK?

AND I SAID, "GUYS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DIVIDE THIS OUT?"

AND I SAID, "THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE PROBLEM."

AND I DO, I FEEL BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M FROM AN AREA THAT HAD NOTHING.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- I GREW UP IN, I TELL PEOPLE I COULDN'T EVEN AFFORD "OR" IN POOR I WAS "PO."

BUT ONE THING ABOUT IT IS MY PARENTS TAUGHT ME HOW TO WORK.

THEY TAUGHT ME HOW TO GO INTO THAT, TO COLLEGE.

AND THEY SAID, DO THE RIGHT THING.

YOU BETTER DO THE RIGHT THING.

'CAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA COME AND SPANK ME.

- [MIKE] YES, SIR.

- SO I FIGURED I HAD TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE IT EVEN THAT THE ATHLETES ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS MONEY.

- OKAY.

- AND THAT'S ALL I WANNA DO.

- I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER GONNA BE FAIR EVEN.

- YEAH.

- BUT I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT MY COUSIN GOT A PICKUP TRUCK.

- OH YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

- SO THAT WAY, IF I NEED HELP MOVING FURNITURE, I CAN CALL HIM.

- WELL, YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO CALL HIM.

THAT'S WHY I TELL ABOUT ALL MY FAMILY.

I SAY, GUYS, I TELL PEOPLE, WE'RE LIKE THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES, THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES.

I CAN BE IN CALIFORNIA, IF I CALL 'EM AND THEY HAVE TO RIDE A BICYCLE FROM GEORGIA TO CALIFORNIA, THEY'RE COMING TO HELP BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE WERE RAISED.

WE WERE RAISED TO TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER.

- TALK ABOUT BEING A GEORGIAN.

YOU ARE FROM GEORGIA, SHANNON SHARPE'S FROM GEORGIA.

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN SOUTHERN WISDOM IS GIVEN PEOPLE KIND OF TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.

THEY THINK WE'RE JUST TALKING FUNNY.

- YES.

- WHAT'S IT LIKE BEING AN ATHLETE FROM HERE?

AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GUYS LIKE SHANNON AND YOUNG GUYS LIKE JAMAL LEWIS, WHO CAME OUTTA HERE, OF COURSE RAN FOR THE RAVENS.

- YES.

- WHAT'S IT LIKE BEING A GEORGIAN ONCE YOU GET OUT IN THE BIGGER WORLD?

- WELL, YOU KNOW, I TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE BEING A GEORGIAN BECAUSE IT'S RESPONSIBILITY.

NOW, YOU'RE HELL, YOU KNOW HOW TO WORK.

THAT'S ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW HOW TO WORK AND YOU KNOW THAT NOTHING IS GONNA BE GIVEN TO YOU FOR FREE.

YOU GET OUT AND YOU GONNA EARN WHAT YOU GET.

AND YOU KNOW, I PLAY WITH GUYS FROM GEORGIA.

THEY KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DO.

AND I TELL PEOPLE THIS, I KNOW HOW TO COOK FOR MYSELF.

- THAT'S REAL.

- I KNOW HOW TO SEW.

IF I NEED TO SEW SOMETHING, I KNOW HOW TO SEW.

I KNOW HOW TO CLEAN MY ROOM.

AND I TOLD EVERYONE THAT I SAID, "GUYS, I CAN TAKE CARE OF MYSELF."

AND I THINK THAT'S THE REASON THAT I'VE ALWAYS HAD.

IT SAYS IF I, AND YOU KNOW, I HAD A CHRISTIAN BELIEF.

I GREW UP IN A CHURCH.

MY MOM WAS A MINISTER.

I GOT SISTERS THAT'S MINISTERS AND BROTHER-IN-LAWS THAT'S MINISTERS.

AND I GREW UP IN A CHURCH.

SO I GOT A PRAYING FAMILY AND I'VE LEARNED TO DO SOME TRAILS ALONE BECAUSE I SAY, I KNOW THE RIGHT THING.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WAS UPSET BECAUSE I DIDN'T GO OUT TO BARS.

I DON'T DRINK, I NEVER HAVE.

- REALLY?

- BUT I SAID, I DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW I GREW UP.

- YEAH.

- SO I'M NOT AGAINST ANYONE THAT DRINKING.

IT JUST DIDN'T WORK FOR HERSCHEL WALKER.

- I GOT IT.

- AND SO I WENT OUT AND DID MY OWN THING.

AND MY MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME, AS LONG AS YOU GOT JESUS, YOU'RE NEVER ALONE.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- AND I'VE CARRIED JESUS WITH ME MY WHOLE LIFE.

AND YEAH, I'VE BEEN OKAY.

- CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS SOMETHING WE HEAR.

AND IT'S ALMOST A BOOGEYMAN WORD.

- [HERSCHEL WALKER] YES.

- AND IT SOUNDS SMARTER THAN T.I.

TALK.

- YES.

- YOU KNOW, I MEAN, T.I.

USES A LOT OF BIG WORDS.

SO I'M LIKE, WHAT IS CRITICAL RACE THEORY?

THERE'S A PROFESSOR, HISTORY PROFESSOR NAMED CAROLYN ANDERSON AT EMORY.

AND CAROLYN TALKS ABOUT CRITICAL RACE THEORY BEING THE STUDY OF SYSTEMS AND HOW THEY'VE OPPRESSED.

SO SOME EXAMPLES WOULD BE, BLACK FARMERS, WE KNOW HAVE BEEN ANNEXED OUT OF BLACK SUBSIDIES.

AND US BEING SOUTHERNERS.

'CAUSE I'M FROM ATLANTA, BUT MY FAMILY'S FROM THE DEEP SOUTH.

THEY'RE FROM TUSKEGEE.

- YES.

- YOU KNOW HOW MUCH A FARMERS' SUBSIDY CAN HELP A FARMER.

- OH YES.

- HOW HURT IF THEY DON'T GET IT.

SO HAVING THEM ANNEXED OUT SUPPORTS THE CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS AND THE SUPPORTING OF SYSTEMS, REDLINING, MEANING INSURANCE COMPANIES AND LOANERS, BANKS, THEY GIVE LOANS WOULD NOT GIVE LOANS TO CERTAIN SIDES OF TOWNS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY CRITICAL RACE THEORY, AND CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS NOT TAUGHT UNTIL COLLEGE.

- RIGHT.

- AND ACTUALLY LAW SCHOOL.

AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING THERE.

I BELIEVE WHAT'S BEING CALLED CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS ACTUALLY THE TEACHING OF PROPER HISTORY.

I AM WHO I AM AND ABLE TO BE, FEEL EQUAL, COMPETENT AND CONFIDENT IN A ROOM WITH ANY PERSON, BECAUSE I GREW UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALL BLACK PEOPLE.

- [HERSCHEL WALKER] RIGHT.

- RIGHT, 1946 COLLIER HEIGHTS IS CREATED FOR ALL BLACK FOLKS.

- YES.

- I DIDN'T HAVE THREE WHITE TEACHERS MY WHOLE LIFE.

THEN I GO TO MOREHOUSE COLLEGE.

BY THE TIME I START INTERACTING WITH WHITE KIDS, I'M 13, 14, BUT I'M CONFIDENT.

AND I'M CONFIDENT BECAUSE WHENEVER WE TALKED ABOUT THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, OUR TEACHERS REMINDED IS, FIRST PERSON TO DIE IS CRISPUS ATTUCKS.

- YES.

- THAT'S A BLACK MAN.

- FIRST PATRIOT TO DIE ON BEHALF OF THIS COUNTRY WAS A BLACK MAN NAMED CRISPUS ATTUCKS.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION.

IT WAS NEVER LOST OR FORGOTTEN THAT HIS ADVISOR, THE KING MAKER WAS A MAN NAMED FREDERICK DOUGLASS.

- RIGHT.

- FREDERICK DOUGLASS WAS THE MOST PHOTOGRAPHED PERSON IN THE 1800S.

HE WAS LITERALLY A BARACK OBAMA LIKE FIGURE IN TERMS OF HIS POPULARITY.

- RIGHT.

- WE LEARNED ABOUT SOJOURNER TRUTH.

WE LEARNED ABOUT HARRIET TUBMAN.

WE LEARN ABOUT FANNIE LOU HAMER.

THERE'S NO PART OF AMERICAN HISTORY THAT WAS TAUGHT TO ME, A ALL-BLACK KID, GROWING UP IN AN ALL-BACK COMMUNITY, TAUGHT BY ALL-BLACK INSTRUCTORS VIRTUALLY.

I WAS NEVER ALLOWED TO THINK I WAS OUTSIDE OF AMERICA.

- YES.

- I WAS NEVER ALLOWED TO THINK THAT I WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN AMERICAN.

AND I WAS ALWAYS ENCOURAGED TO FIND YOURSELF IN THE PAGES OF HISTORY.

WHY IS THE CRT, ALLOWED TO BE?

AND EVEN BY YOU.

- [HERSCHEL WALKER] YES.

- USED AS A TRIGGER WORD TO, IN MY OPINION, TO GET VOTES.

YOU KNOW, TO SCARE PEOPLE.

AND HOW COULD WE BENEFIT BY TEACHING WHITE CHILDREN, THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS COUNTRY, THAT THIS COUNTRY HAS NEVER BEEN A WHITE COUNTRY, BUT A CULMINATION OF COOPERATION, EVEN INVOLUNTARILY WITH US BEING ENSLAVED, IT'S BEEN A CULMINATION OF ALL THESE PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS REPUBLIC BETTER.

AND WOULD YOU SUPPORT SOMETHING, NOT CALL CRT.

- YES.

- BUT A TRUTH BASED TEACHING THAT EVERYWHERE AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE BEEN, THAT WE MAKE SURE WHITE CHILDREN KNOW IT BECAUSE I BELIEVE FOR US TO BE ROBBED OF OUR DIGNITY IS ONE THING, BUT FOR THEM TO REMAIN IGNORANT IS DANGEROUS FOR US.

- YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU ARE SAYING THAT IS SO GREAT, EDUCATION.

YOU WERE EDUCATED.

- BUT PROPERLY EDUCATED.

- PROPERLY EDUCATED.

- 'CAUSE I COULD HAVE WENT TO ROBERT LEE HIGH SCHOOL AND I COULD HAVE LEARNED THE WORD 'NORTHERN AGGRESSION'.

- ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE NOT SAYING IS OUR KIDS AREN'T BEING EDUCATED ON ANYTHING.

RIGHT NOW, THEY DON'T EVEN WANNA GIVE OUR KIDS THE EDUCATION.

AND I SAY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE GOTTA DO IN WHICH I CONTINUE TO SAY, WE GOT TO EDUCATE OUR KIDS.

LIKE, AND I'M NOT PIVOTING FOR ANY OF THOSE GUYS.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT TEACHING OUR KIDS WHAT WE NEED TO TEACH 'EM BY GETTING THEM INTO SCHOOLS, THEY CAN GET THE PROPER EDUCATION.

AND I THINK, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID TO MY SON.

MY SON IS PART, HE'S BLACK, HISPANIC AND ITALIAN.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- [HERSCHEL WALKER] AND I SAID, "GUYS, I WANT HIM TO KNOW HIS BLACK HISTORY AS WELL."

- [MIKE] YES, ABSOLUTELY.

- HE WENT TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL.

HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW SOME OF THE BLACK HISTORY.

AND I SAID, "NO, YOU GOTTA LEARN THIS."

AND I WANTED TO TEACH HIM THAT AS WELL, BUT THAT'S NOT BEING TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS.

'CAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS A 100% THAT I WILL, I WILL SUPPORT THINGS LIKE THAT.

EDUCATION IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING, WE GOT TO SUPPORT THROUGH THE CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT'S WORKING, BECAUSE SOME OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS THEY'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO THE INSTITUTION RATHER THAN THE KID.

- GOTCHA, SO YOU WOULD SUPPORT.

- OH YES.

- YOU WOULD SUPPORT A FUSION OF BLACK HISTORY WITH- - WITH ALL HISTORY.

- SO BLACK HISTORY MONTH DON'T HAVE TO JUST BE FEBRUARY.

- RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY EVEN GIVE IT FEBRUARY.

WHY THEY CALL IT BLACK HISTORY?

- WELL, CARTER G. WOODSON WANTED TO MAKE SURE- - WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT SEE- - SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT- - ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE DO IS THAT'S HOW YOU SEPARATE PEOPLE.

I WANNA TEACH KIDS ABOUT ALL HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

WE'RE NOT THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD BECAUSE OF A WHITE MAN.

WE'RE NOT THE GREATEST COUNTRY, A BLACK MAN.

WE'RE THE GREATEST COUNTRY, 'CAUSE THIS WHOLE MIXTURE HAS COME TOGETHER.

- COOPERATING.

- ONE OF THE MOST NEWEST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, BUT WE'RE THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY, AT THIS TIME.

- [MIKE] YES.

- AND I SAID, THAT'S THE REASON WHY.

SO I DO SUPPORT THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING.

AND PEOPLE KEEP SAYING, "OH, HE'S SAYING THIS."

NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WANT ALL KIDS TO BE EDUCATED ON THE HISTORY OF AMERICA.

- YOU AS A DAD.

- [HERSCHEL WALKER] YES.

- YOUR SON HAS IDENTIFIED AS A PERSON, HE DOESN'T, I DON'T THINK HE CALLS HIMSELF GAY.

BUT HE DATES AND HE'S INTERESTED IN MEN.

- YES.

- HE'S A FIERCE CONSERVATIVE, LIKE HIS FATHER.

I'VE SEEN HIM SPEAK, A VERY WELL SPOKEN YOUNG MAN.

YOU HAVE, FOR ALL OF THE ACCUSATIONS THAT CONSERVATIVES ARE NOT PROGRESSIVE, THAT THEY DON'T SUPPORT GAY AND LESBIAN AGENDAS AND STUFF.

YOU'VE BEEN A VERY SUPPORTIVE FATHER OF YOUR CHILD.

- I LOVE HIM.

- YOU'VE SHOWN LOVE, YOU STOOD WITH HIM.

COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT SOME?

JUST BECAUSE THERE'S BLACK DADS OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, AS ANY AMERICAN DAD, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE ALPHA MALE, YOU KNOW, MACHISMO.

YOU WANT YOUR...

YOUR SON IS A HELL OF AN ATHLETE AND HE'S A CHEERLEADER.

- [MIKE] YES.

- HE'S A HELL OF A SPOKESMAN, EVEN IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH HIM OR NOT.

HE'S INCREDIBLY WELL SPOKEN AND EDUCATED CHILD.

TALK ABOUT BEING THE FATHER OF A GAY CHILD.

- [HERSCHEL WALKER] YES.

- AND BEING THAT PRIDEFULLY, MAKING SURE YOUR CHILD IS RESPECTED AND RESPECT HIMSELF.

I THINK THAT'S A PHENOMENALLY PROGRESSIVE THING THAT YOU'RE OFTEN NOT ACCREDITED.

- WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I TELL PEOPLE IS I TAUGHT MY SON ABOUT THE LORD JESUS.

AND AS HE GOT OLDER, RIGHT NOW HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR HIMSELF.

HE'S AT AN AGE NOW THAT HE HAS TO ANSWER HIS OWN CHRISTIAN BELIEF.

I CAN'T ANSWER FOR HIM.

- [MIKE] YES, SIR.

- SO I TAUGHT HIM TO BE A GOOD KID AND I TAUGHT HIM EDUCATION.

BUT ONE THING ABOUT IT, I LOVE THIS KID TO DEATH.

- YEAH.

- YOU KNOW, HE AND HIS MOM AND I, WE SEPARATED.

- YEAH.

- BUT ONE THING ABOUT IT IS WE CAME BACK TOGETHER TO RAISE OUR SON.

- [MIKE] BEAUTIFUL.

- AND I TELL PEOPLE THIS, AND I SAY, I WANT ALL AFRICAN-AMERICANS OUT THERE TO KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY LEAVE THE MOM, BUT DON'T LEAVE THE CHILD.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- CONTINUE TO BE A DAD, CONTINUE TO BE A STRONG FIGURE IN THAT CHILD'S LIFE.

- [MIKE] YES SIR.

- BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS, THAT HAPPENS, AND I SAID, "I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO RAISE HIM AND BE RIGHT THERE WITH HIM."

BECAUSE I SAID, GUYS, ONE OF THE THINGS I TOLD THE PEOPLE IN THE REPUBLICAN SIDE WHEN I DECIDED TO RUN, THAT'S WHY SOME OF 'EM DIDN'T ENDORSE ME AT FIRST.

THEY'RE COMING AROUND, ENDORSE ME NOW.

I SAID, "GUYS, I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT LIKE."

ALL REPUBLICANS ARE NOT RIGHT.

ALL DEMOCRATS ARE NOT WRONG.

- THAT IS TRUE.

- THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS PEOPLE WON'T TALK.

- YEAH.

- PEOPLE WON'T TALK.

AND I SAID, WHY DON'T WE COME UP WITH TWO CRITERIA TO RUN FOR OFFICE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

YOU FIRST GOTTA LOVE AMERICA.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- IF YOU DON'T LOVE AMERICA, WHY DO YOU RUN?

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- THEN YOU GOTTA LOVE THE CONSTITUTION, BECAUSE WITHIN THE CONSTITUTION, THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR, CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEMS WE'RE FIGHTING FOR RIGHT NOW.

- ABSOLUTELY.

- AND WE CAN AMEND CERTAIN THINGS.

BUT I SAID, RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

BUT WITH MY CHILD, I SAID, GUYS, I LOVE HIM.

YOU KNOW, DOES HE DRIVE ME CRAZY SOMETIMES?

YES HE DOES.

- THAT'S WHAT CHILDREN DO.

- I'M GONNA BE THERE, WAIT IT WITH HIM, NO MATTER WHAT.

I LOVE THAT LITTLE BOY.

YOU KNOW, WHAT PEOPLE FORGET, HE SPEAKS FOUR DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, THREE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

- [MIKE] WOW!

- AND WRITES THEM.

HE DON'T JUST SPEAK 'EM.

HE WRITES THEM AS WELL.

AND HE HAS BEEN THIS INCREDIBLE KID.

AND RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE.

- YES, TALKING ABOUT MONEY IN ATHLETICS.

WHEN YOU CAME OUT, YOU WERE THE NUMBER ONE MOST COVETED PLAYER IN THE COUNTRY.

AND I EXPECTED YOU, I REMEMBER BEING A KID.

I EXPECTED YOU TO GO TO THE NFL.

I WAS AT THAT POINT, HOPING I WAS LIKE, YOU GONE BE WITH STEVE MARKOWSKI.

I WAS LIKE YOU GONE BE IN OUR BACKFIELD SOMEWHERE.

THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

YOU WENT TO THE USFL.

YOU PLAYED FOR THE GENERALS, CORRECT?

IN NEW JERSEY.

- I DID, I DID.

- WHAT WAS THE USF LIKE, BECAUSE IT WENT AWAY FOR A WHILE, IT'S BACK NOW.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT WHY, WAS IT MONEY?

- UH, NO IT WASN'T MONEY.

EVEN THOUGH I WAS THE HIGHEST PAID PLAYER THERE.

BUT THIS, WHAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT ME.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I DECIDED TO GO TO COLLEGE, I WASN'T GOING TO COLLEGE.

I WAS GOING TO THE MILITARY.

I WANTED TO BE A MARINE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM WRIGHTSVILLE, GEORGIA, NO KID DREAMED THAT THEY CAN GO TO COLLEGE, THEY CAN PLAY FOOTBALL.

EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE THINK THAT I GREW UP PLAYING FOOTBALL, I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW.

I, YOU KNOW, I NEVER DREAMED OF PLAYING FOOTBALL.

I USED TO WASH DISHES.

- AT WHAT YEAR DID YOU START PLAYING FOOTBALL?

- I STARTED LATE.

I STARTED LATE PLAYING FOOTBALL, BECAUSE THE ONLY REASON- - HOW OLD?

- I STARTED PLAYING ABOUT 14.

- SO ABOUT 14, SO YOU WOULD'VE BEEN IN EIGHTH GRADE BY THE TIME YOU STARTED PLAYING.

- YEAH, I STARTED PLAYING LATE BECAUSE I WAS OVERWEIGHT.

MY MOM' USED TO SAY I WAS BIG BONED.

- SO, THERE'S HOPE FOR ME.

- YEAH, THERE'S HOPE.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I CAN HELP YOU CUT ALL THAT UP.

I CAN HELP CUT ALL THAT UP.

- I'M GONNA CALL YOU ON THAT, FOR REAL MAN!

- I CAN DO THAT NOW.

- OKAY.

- YES, BUT SEE, AND I DIDN'T GROW UP WATCHING FOOTBALL, PLAYING FOOTBALL, SO I WANTED TO GO TO THE MILITARY.

MY MOM TOLD ME AS YOUR MIND AND HEART, PURE OF JESUS, NO MATTER WHAT DECISION YOU MAKE, HE'LL MAKE IT RIGHT.

I FLIPPED A COIN.

THAT'S HOW I ENDED UP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA.

I FLIPPED A COIN.

AND WHEN THE USFL THING CAME, I FLIPPED A COIN FOR THAT AS WELL.

I HAVE AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT AND I SAID GUYS, YOU KNOW, I DO, I LOVE THE LORD JESUS.

AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, NO KID DREAM OF GOING TO PLAY FOOTBALL IN NFL.

AND I GOT A CHANCE TO GO.

AND WHEN THE USFL CAME, I JUST FLIPPED A COIN AND I WENT TO THE USFL, AND THEN I DID GET A CHANCE TO PLAY IN THE NFL.

YOU KNOW, I GOT A CHANCE TO GO TO THE COWBOYS.

PLAY WITH TOM LANDRY AND TONY DORSETT, AND ED "TOO TALL" JONES, AND I PLAYED REGGIE WHITE AND RANDALL CUNNINGHAM.

I PLAYED WITH SOME INCREDIBLE PLAYERS AND I'M FROM WRIGHTSVILLE, GEORGIA.

THAT'S WHY I TELL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD THAT AMERICA'S DREAM.

YES, IT'S HARD.

THINGS ARE TOUGH.

IT AIN'T GONNA BE EASY, BUT YOU JUST GOTTA BE WILLING TO WORK, PUT YOUR NOSE DOWN AND JUST, OKAY, KEEP IT AND JUST KEEP GOING FORWARD.

- IN THE USFL DAYS, WHEN YOU WERE WITH THE NEW JERSEY GENERALS, YOU MET A GUY WHO OWNED THE TEAM NAMED DONALD TRUMP.

- YES.

(HERSCHEL WALKER CHUCKLES) - ALL RIGHT, I WAS USED TO DONALD TRUMP BEING SEEN AS A DEMOCRAT, SOMEONE VERY LIBERAL, SAW LADIES ON HIS ARMS, SAW CASINO OWNERS, WE RAP ABOUT HIM A LOT.

- [HERSCHEL WALKER] YES.

- RAPPERS.

- HE WAS A BIG TIME RAPPER.

- [MIKE] YEAH, HE WAS A SLICKSTER.

- I'VE BEEN AROUND HIM SINCE '83, SO I REMEMBER ALL THE RAPPERS AND ALL THE PEOPLE HANGING.

- OH MAN, YEAH.

SO, AND THEN HE GOES ON TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

45TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, GOES ON AND RUNS AND WINS AS A REPUBLICAN.

- [MIKE] YES.

- WHAT'S YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH TRUMP?

WHAT WAS IT LIKE AS AN OWNER?

- YES.

- I KNOW YOU SUPPORTED HIM AS PRESIDENT.

- YES.

- AND NOW HE IS SUPPORTING YOU AND ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT TRUMP'S.

YOU HAVE AN ENDORSEMENT ACTUALLY FROM TRUMP AND MITCH MCCONNELL.

- [HERSCHEL WALKER] YES.

- SO FROM MORE MODERATE TO MORE RADICAL REPUBLICANS.

- YES.

- ALL KIND OF SUPPORT YOU.

WHAT'S YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH TRUMP BEEN LIKE?

- WELL, IT'S BEEN GOOD.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, AND I SAID, DONALD AND ME, 'CAUSE HE TOLD ME TO KEEP CALLING HIM DONALD.

IS THAT WE HAVE MORE OF A RELATIONSHIP, A FRIEND RELATIONSHIP.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

YOU KNOW, HIS TWO OLDER KIDS, IVANKA AND LITTLE DONALD WERE WITH MY FAMILY, A GREAT DEAL DURING THE SUMMER FOR FIVE YEARS WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE KIDS.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- THEY TRAVELED WITH MY FAMILY AND YOU KNOW, EVERY BRONX ZOO, EVERY DISNEY WORLD, EVERY PLACE THEY TRAVELED WITH MY FAMILY.

SO I'VE KNOWN THE FAMILY LIKE THAT.

AND HE EATEN AT MY HOME.

AND I'VE EATEN AT HIS HOME, MY FAMILY EATEN AT HIS HOME.

SO I GOTTA KNOW HIM IN THAT ASPECT.

AND WHEN HE BECAME PRESIDENT, I WAS LIKE, WHOA, HE GONNA BECOME PRESIDENT.

I'M LIKE, BUT I DID SAY SOMETHING IN 1983.

- [MIKE] WHAT'D YOU SAY?

- IN 1983, I REMEMBER DOING A INTERVIEW.

IT WAS, I THINK THE NEW YORK TIMES, I HOPE THEY STILL GOT THAT INTERVIEW, BUT WE WERE WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW, THIS GUY CAN BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES."

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- AND THE REASON I SAID THAT BECAUSE HE LOVED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

EVERY TIME HE WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, HE WAS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT HOW THESE OTHER COUNTRIES ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND I JUST SAID THAT NOT KNOWING ANYTHING.

AND I SAID, MY RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD BECAUSE I SAY, HE LOVES THIS COUNTRY.

AND EVEN THOUGH YOU SEE ALL THE CRAZY THINGS THAT HE SAYS, I SAID, BUT THE MAN POLICIES WAS INCREDIBLE.

BUT HE DOES SAY SOME THINGS THAT I'VE SAID, SOMETIMES YOU SHOULDN'T SAY THAT ONE.

AND HE DON'T LISTEN TO ME, BUT HE STILL SAYS IT.

BUT I SAID, ONE THING ABOUT DONALD IS HE LOVES THIS COUNTRY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I TOLD PEOPLE.

I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS MAN HERE IS GONNA FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY.

AND HE'S A FIGHTER.

HE IS A FIGHTER.

- THIS IS A DONALD TRUMP QUESTION.

IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST OFF-THE-CUFFS, OVER THE TOP STATEMENTS I'D EVER HEARD.

BUT WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN HE SAID TO BLACK FOLKS, "WHAT DO YOU GOTTA LOSE?"

- YES.

- WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT STATEMENT?

- WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS NOW IS- - HE WAS TELLING BLACK PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR HIM.

- HE WAS SAYING, WHAT DO YOU GOTTA LOSE?

AND TRUST ME, AND VOTE FOR ME.

AND I SAID, THAT'S WHAT'S SO SAD IS WE NOW HAS USED, I SAID, BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE AS PEOPLE TO GET VOTES, WE NOW DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW WE GONNA TREAT 'EM OUTSIDE OF GETTING A VOTE.

AND I SAID, THAT'S WHAT IS SO SAD.

AND I THINK, PRESIDENT TRUMP... NOT PRESIDENT TRUMP, DONALD, WHEN HE SAID THAT STATEMENT, I SAID, I DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THE WAY YOU SAID THAT STATEMENT.

THERE'S NO DOUBT, GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT HE CAN DO.

AND I THINK PEOPLE- HE SHOWED WHAT HE CAN DO.

I THINK PEOPLE SEE THAT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND BLACK AND BROWN WAS GOOD.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- YOU SEE THAT, HE EVEN TRIED TO FUND THE HISTORICAL BLACK COLLEGES.

- YEAH.

- AND PEOPLE WOULDN'T GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR THAT.

AND I SAID, GUYS, LOOK AT THE STATISTICS.

BUT I SAID, LET'S GO BACK TO WHERE THE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE ARE AT TODAY.

AND LET'S GO BACK TO, I SAID, GUYS, WE HAVE TO EDUCATE OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN.

WE NEED TO EDUCATE THEM.

WE NEED TO FIRST PROTECT THEM AT HOME.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT RIGHT NOW, YOU LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND CRIME IS WRONG.

AND I SAID, WE USE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE AS PEOPLE JUST TO GET VOTES, BUT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR 'EM, AND THAT'S THE REASON I DECIDED I WANNA RUN.

I SAID, GUYS, I'M NOT GONNA SAY, "WHAT DO YOU GOTTA LOSE WITH ME?"

I'M BLACK, PEOPLE HAVE CALLED ME WHITE.

THEY'VE CALLED ME EVERYTHING.

BUT WHEN I WAS 16, SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT COULD HAVE CHANGED MY LIFE.

- TELL ME THE STORY.

- AND WHAT HAPPENED IS, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST NOW COMING OUT TO BE A GREAT ATHLETE.

I WAS JUST NOW IN WRIGHTSVILLE, GEORGIA COMING TO BE THIS GREAT ATHLETE.

AND I THINK MY HIGH SCHOOL IS PROBABLY ALMOST 50-50 WHITE-BLACK.

THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN THAT DID SOMETHING TO THE PRINCIPAL, AND HE DID SOMETHING TO THE PRINCIPAL.

BUT THAT WAS TOTALLY WRONG BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA SHOW RESPECT TO THE PRINCIPAL, AND THE PRINCIPAL WANTED TO DISCIPLINE HIM.

AND EVERYONE WANTED ME TO STAND UP.

BUT THE WAY THEY WANTED ME TO STAND UP WAS TO GET OUTTA FOOTBALL, TO LEAVE TRACK.

THERE WAS THE CLANS COMING DOWN TO WRIGHTSVILLE, GEORGIA.

THERE WAS A CLAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN LEADERS COMING DOWN TO GEORGIA.

IT WAS LIKE, "OH, HERSCHEL, YOU GOTTA DO THIS, GOTTA DO THAT."

AND MY PARENTS TAUGHT ME TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

THEY TAUGHT ME TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I LOVE THE LORD JESUS.

AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?

I'M NOT GONNA LEAVE FOOTBALL.

YOU KNOW, I STILL THINK I'M GONNA DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

THERE'S NO CALLING RIGHT OR WRONG.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- AND I WENT THIS DIRECTION, AND GOING THIS DIRECTION I GOT A SCHOLARSHIP, AND I'M WHERE I'M AT TODAY, GET A CHANCE.

- ABSOLUTELY.

- HERE TO TALK TO YOU.

AND I ALWAYS THINK, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IF I WENT THE OTHER SIDE?

- YEAH.

- IF I WENT THAT SIDE, WHERE WILL I BE AT TODAY?

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY- - [MIKE] YEAH.

- TO WIN THE SENATE SEAT HERE IN GEORGIA, WHERE NOW I CAN GET A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- THAT I CAN SAY, "GUYS, WE HAVE TO DO THIS."

THAT I'M A FIGHTER, WHERE I CAN TELL PEOPLE, HERSCHEL WALKER WOULD FIGHT.

- YEAH.

- I DON'T DANCE AND SING FOR NOBODY.

I NEVER HAVE.

THAT, WHEN I GET IN THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID MCCONNELL ENDORSED ME AS WELL.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- I TOLD ALL OF THEM, BEFORE I DECIDED TO RUN, AS Y'ALL MAY NOT LIKE HERSCHEL 'CAUSE I DON'T DANCE AND SING FOR NOBODY.

- GOTCHA.

- AND I NEVER HAVE, BECAUSE I SAID, I CAN GO BACK TO WRIGHTSVILLE AND I'LL BE FINE.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE, ARE GONNA LOVE ME NO MATTER WHAT.

BUT I SAID RIGHT NOW, WHAT I SEE GOING ON IS NOT RIGHT.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- WHAT I SEE GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS WHEN THEY TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS JUST TO GET VOTES, BUT THEY GET INTO WASHINGTON, THEY DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

- [MIKE] UH-UH.

- NOTHING EVER CHANGED.

WE'RE STILL FIGHTING OVER THE SAME THING WE WERE FIGHTING WHEN JIMMY CARTER WAS PRESIDENT.

- [MIKE] YEAH.

- WHEN ARE WE GONNA START DOING SOMETHING?

YOU KNOW, I CREATED A BUSINESS.

THEY'VE BEEN CRUCIFYING MY BUSINESS.

MY BUSINESS HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL.

- [MIKE] WHAT'S YOUR BUSINESS?

- IN THE FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY.

- [MIKE] UH-UH.

- WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I TELL, GUYS, I KNOW HOW TO CREATE JOBS.

I KNOW HOW TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING.

- YEAH.

- AND THEN HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE, I WANT THEM TO GO OUT AND HELP SOMEONE ELSE AS WELL.

- YEAH.

- WHEN PEOPLE HAVE HELPED ME, I GOTTA GO OUT AND HELP OTHER PEOPLE.

THAT'S HOW YOU GROW.

THAT'S HOW YOU BECOME BETTER.

BUT NOT, WHEN YOU DON'T HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE PROBLEMS.

- SEE, I WANNA THANK YOU.

WHETHER WE AGREE ON POLICY OR NOT, DOESN'T MATTER AS MUCH AS I SEE SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF A ROLE MODEL.

I SEE SOMEONE WHO'S SUPPORTIVE OF THEIR CHILD.

I SEE SOMEONE WHO WANTS THIS REPUBLIC TO BE AS GREAT AS THE CONSTITUTION PROMISES IT TO BE.

I STILL DON'T KNOW WHO I'M VOTING FOR.

I'M GONNA KEEP WATCHING.

- WELL, I KNOW YOU'RE VOTING FOR ME, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

(MIKE LAUGHS) - WE'RE NOT GONNA TELL ANYONE.

WE'RE NOT GONNA TELL ANYONE, BUT THAT'S OKAY, BUT YOU KNOW, THANK YOU.

- I LOVE AND RESPECT YOU, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GREATLY.

- NO, THANK YOU, GOD BLESS YOU.

- THANK YOU FOR COMING TO LOVE AND RESPECT.

- GOD BLESS YOU.

- YES SIR.

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